# What happened to Amper?

**URL:** <https://discuss.kotlinlang.org/t/what-happened-to-amper/31109>\
**Category:** Language Design\
**Created:** [July 4, 2026, 9:22am UTC](https://discuss.kotlinlang.org/t/what-happened-to-amper/31109 "2026-07-04T09:22:25Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 6\
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**Author:** ![Landei](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/discuss.kotlinlang.org/landei/32/9407_2.png) [@Landei](https://discuss.kotlinlang.org/u/Landei)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2026, 9:22am UTC](https://discuss.kotlinlang.org/t/what-happened-to-amper/31109/1 "2026-07-04T09:22:25Z")

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I looked for current videos about Amper, nothing. It didn’t seem to be a topic in the KotlinConf, there is no promotion of it, and I couldn’t find a roadmap. Instead, I saw a video about “declarative Gradle”. Honestly, this feels like a step back, basically it’s a “nicer Maven”:

[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/kotlinlang/original/2X/e/e8ede00b56434930b8c71f98f4df410e9cb8e0b1.jpeg "A First Look at the Kotlin Ecosystem Plugin for Declarative Gradle | Marcin Mycek") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25Ngfn9Bhqc)

So, is Amper being sidetracked, is it destined to be buried in the Toolchain project instead of being used stand-alone? How serious is the declarative Gradle plugin, why does it compete with Amper?

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**Author:** ![kyay10](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/c57346/32.png) [@kyay10](https://discuss.kotlinlang.org/u/kyay10)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2026, 3:01pm UTC](https://discuss.kotlinlang.org/t/what-happened-to-amper/31109/2 "2026-07-04T15:01:03Z")

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My understanding is that Amper is part of the Kotlin Toolchain now, which means it’s getting more attention, not less. The KotlinConf talks are trickling out slowly, so I’d hold off on making conclusions until they’re all out.

Personally, Declarative Gradle seems interesting, but also feels unnecessarily restrictive (I find being able to use logic in my build scripts incredibly helpful actually).

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**Author:** ![clovisai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a9adbd/32.png) [@clovisai](https://discuss.kotlinlang.org/u/clovisai)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2026, 6:29pm UTC](https://discuss.kotlinlang.org/t/what-happened-to-amper/31109/3 "2026-07-10T18:29:57Z")

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Amper _is_ the Kotlin Toolchain. Amper was renamed, and it was one of the main topics of the keynote etc. They’re hoping it becomes more popular once it’s installed everywhere by default.

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**Author:** ![clovisai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a9adbd/32.png) [@clovisai](https://discuss.kotlinlang.org/u/clovisai)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2026, 6:31pm UTC](https://discuss.kotlinlang.org/t/what-happened-to-amper/31109/4 "2026-07-10T18:31:40Z")

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I personally believe Declarative Gradle is a better path forward than the Kotlin Toolchain, but that’s obviously not the opinion of JetBrains (according to the Gradle blog posts, JetBrains has had access to the prototypes).

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**Author:** ![Landei](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/discuss.kotlinlang.org/landei/32/9407_2.png) [@Landei](https://discuss.kotlinlang.org/u/Landei)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2026, 2:54pm UTC](https://discuss.kotlinlang.org/t/what-happened-to-amper/31109/5 "2026-07-21T14:54:56Z")

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The relevant KotlinConf talk is finally online: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S19BE4Xvyrs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S19BE4Xvyrs)

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**Author:** ![Brumal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/discuss.kotlinlang.org/brumal/32/11438_2.png) [@Brumal](https://discuss.kotlinlang.org/u/Brumal)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2026, 9:42pm UTC](https://discuss.kotlinlang.org/t/what-happened-to-amper/31109/6 "2026-08-08T21:42:16Z")

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I really love Kotlin toolchain. It makes starting and building compose project so much simpler!